President Donald Trump's attorney Rudy Giuliani said Sunday that a 2016 meeting at Trump Tower between top Trump campaign officials and a Russian government ally could not be evidence of collusion even though the intention of the meeting was to get damaging information on Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton.
But her husband, Jared Kushner, was less of a concern, Giuliani indicated.
"No, no, no ... don't do this to me", Giuliani said. "Nowadays they are", Giuliani asserted.
"I'm old enough to remember when we went after Bill ClintonWilliam (Bill) Jefferson ClintonTime running out for Trump's NAFTA talks Pioneer of modern redistricting dies at 75 To reduce urban violence, let's consider the real causes - not guns, police or "low" taxes MORE for "depends on what the definition of 'is" is, ' that's up there - I think this might beat that", Setmeyer said.
"Don't do this to you?" said Oliver after playing the clip. "Maybe you know because you're a genius".
Mr Giuliani then made his main point - that accusations of obstruction of justice against the president hinge on a conversation he had with then Federal Bureau of Investigation director James Comey in February 2017, and that Mr Trump's account of that conversation differs radically from Mr Comey's.
Todd, visibly perplexed, interrupted: "Truth is truth". Comey says you did talk about it.
Dean was White House counsel for President Richard Nixon during Watergate.
CNN says that Trump's legal team is opposed to the idea of Trump testifying before the Mueller probe because they believe "the special counsel's investigators could take what Trump says, if it differs from what others have laid out, as a lie".
But Giuliani's philosophy on the nature of truth may be more than a gaffe.
"Truth isn't truth. The President of the United States says, "I didn't ..." But in explaining why Trump should worry about telling the truth, Giuliani questioned the existence of truth itself.
"No, no, no", Giuliani said.
"Mr. Mayor, do you realize. this is going to become a bad meme", Todd interrupted.
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